1964
7:46 Tue Oct 20
Re: British Steel
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How about blaming David Steel
He's as good as any
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,
7:43 Tue Oct 20
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Things you learn on here eh. Unions ruined our car industry and the coal industry too.
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RM10
7:38 Tue Oct 20
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Blame Thatcher
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jack flash
7:32 Tue Oct 20
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The writing was on the wall for British Steel once the unions had wrecked the car industry & caused all the coal mines to close
That said, the Government could & should have tried to do more to help
The amount of public funds that are poured into the cosetted farming industry is staggering. They are the greediest scroungers this country has
Already millionaires sitting on huge & valuable tracts of land with huge amounts of valuable properties, they are paid millions of pounds in grants & subsidies annually for doing nothing!
One of the presenters on Countryfile gets paid £2m pa in subsidies (out of the public purse)
It's a disgrace & it won't change since most MP's (on both sides of the house) are large scale landowners
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,
7:27 Tue Oct 20
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Mike, you sound just like the motivational speaker that those soon to be unemployed steelworkers need.
Would you consider giving up a portion of your time to mentor and act as a role model for these people?
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Mike Oxsaw
7:24 Tue Oct 20
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Punctuation Minor. I did my own re-training, in my own time at my own cost. It is, after all, MY fucking life.
As for employment opportunities? Why limit the search to finding employment. How about looking for work to do instead and train yourself to do that.
It might to surprise you to realise that "Once a steelworker, always a steelworker" is not a fundamental law.
Whether or not the newly or soon-to-be unemployed think any of the work they could end up doing is appropriate for a person of their status is entirely up to them and their ego. The state provides a safety net for those that need it.
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Mike Oxsaw
7:15 Tue Oct 20
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How about Corby, 64? Can we blame Corby?
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,
7:14 Tue Oct 20
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Mike, let's develop your too busy retraining idea. As I'm unaware of the wonderful employment opportunities in places like Redcar perhaps you could enlighten us as to what training we could do, for how long, at what cost etc.
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1964
7:10 Tue Oct 20
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*blamed Corbyn
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1964
7:09 Tue Oct 20
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ray winstone 6:53 Tue Oct 20
So as I said, you just hate Cameron. Nothing to do with the steel industry.
... and that is the problem with politics.
Politicians will just slag of the opposition whether they agree with the policy or not - it's fucking dishonest and everything wrong with politics and why I hate the fucking lot of them.
If you blCorbyn for this I'd still argue it's nothing to do with him.
Market forces!
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Mike Oxsaw
7:01 Tue Oct 20
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I'd be too busy retraining to fuck about posting on here.
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Dapablo
7:00 Tue Oct 20
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More bloody scroungers on the dole sitting around doing nothing, they should just kill em really, if they can't work what's the point of em.
The establishment have long transfered their shares so who cares they're making loads that's all that matters isn't it.
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,
6:57 Tue Oct 20
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What would any of us, who have posted on this thread, do if we were one of these redundant steelworkers?
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Mike Oxsaw
6:57 Tue Oct 20
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To use a "closer to home" analogy: Northampton Town. I read somewhere that they have been issued with a winding up order (by HMRC, I think).
Should EVERY person who buys a ticket to watch a football match either live or via TV subscription be forced to pay a 2 pound surcharge to cover the costs of preventing them going under simply because "they're a football club and everybody watching a game is clearly a football fan"?
The world is changing, and in commerce, if you opt to not change with it, which you are quite at liberty to do, you opt to fail.
Same with any British/nationalised industry: had BL, for instance, produced cars people actually wanted at a price they were prepared to pay, the Japanese (et al) would never have got a foot in the door.
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ray winstone
6:53 Tue Oct 20
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1964 6:45 Tue Oct 20
He promised the earth to get into power and has delivered fuck all but misery.
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1964
6:52 Tue Oct 20
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How about NOT let in 20,000 Syrian refugees and use the money to soften the blow for the steel workers.
I'll vote for that!
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1964
6:45 Tue Oct 20
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ray winstone 6:30 Tue Oct 20
So because everything bad prior to 2010 was Blair/Browns fault your logic tells you it is Camerons fault these steel businesses are going bust, is it?
No mate, your logic is to just blame Cameron because you hate him, nothing to do with reality.
I don't mind you hating him, but get real, it's FA to do with him.
There's not much more he can do apart from perhapsshutting a few hospitals or sacking more police to give the money to prop up the steel industry.
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RM10
6:41 Tue Oct 20
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Yes
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,
6:39 Tue Oct 20
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What these closures illustrate is the absolute powerlessness of politicians and governments in the face of world economics.
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RM10
6:39 Tue Oct 20
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Haha its never their fault tory twats
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BarryShitpeas
6:38 Tue Oct 20
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Mallard
Really? You think we should prop them up for the sake of it? Adapt or die. Fuck off with the hand wringing
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